‘It’s Not Going To Fix Anything’: Black Conservative Debates ‘Artistic Intellectual’ Over Reparations

Actress and comedian Amanda Seales — who described herself as a “radical black woman” and an “artistic intellectual,” among other things — debated 20 black conservatives, and while many made good points, one in particular stood out when he challenged her claim that reparations were both “just and necessary.”

Seales made the assertion on “Surrounded,” a debate series presented by political YouTube channel Jubilee, and the 20 conservatives stepped up one at a time to take the seat opposite her and engage in debate.

The second to sit across from Seales was one of the youngest in the group and he introduces himself as “Matt Nuclear” before stating that he felt privileged to be debating such a beautiful black woman.

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“You can give every low-income black American a $50,000 ‘reparations’ check—and it’s not going to fix anything. It’s not going to increase the median household income in ten years.

We had the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882—basically put them under apartheid here in the United… pic.twitter.com/M5TFUny9yP

— Natalie Jean Beisner (@NJBeisner) August 17, 2025

“I disagree that reparations are necessary,” he cut to the chase immediately. “I think the most important thing that’s necessary right now for the black community would be the stopping of violence, especially black on black violence. I don’t see how reparations are going to solve anything.”

Seales dramatically lowered her head, raising a hand to her forehead and sighing loudly.

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“You can give everyone here like a $50,000 check – especially the people that are in the streets who are committing violent crimes consistently — a $50,000 check, it’s not going to fix anything. It’s not going to increase the median household income in ten years by 10% or 20%.”

“For example, we had the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882,” he continued. “We prevented Chinese people from getting citizenship and even entering the country. We discriminated against them and basically put them under apartheid, even here in the United States, yet they have the highest median household income. How is that possible? How come they don’t complain and feel entitled consistently to beg for reparations and beg for this when they are killing each other 90% of the time — which is the rate that black people kill each other, according to the FBI?”

“Oh, young Matt,” Seales did not attempt to hide her exasperation.

“Yet white people are the oppressors,” he interjected.

“I’m not sure where your education came from, but they lied to you,” Seales claimed, despite the Straight Arrow News-provided fact-check attached to the published video that largely verified Nuclear’s statements.

“Stats don’t lie, though,” he protested.

“Statistics lie all the time,” Seales insisted, suggesting that the numbers were being manipulated specifically to keep black Americans oppressed. “So let’s start there.”

She went on to claim that there was no comparison to be made because the Chinese immigrants had come to America of their own volition, and then claimed that efforts were still being made to keep black people from “existing in their true citizenship,” but never explained what that would look like.

When Nuclear pushed back, she interrupted, “Are you acting right now? Do you really believe this?”

When he pointed to decades of FBI data that showed black people were more likely to be killed by other black people than by white people, she laughed at him.

She treated the others who debated her throughout the in similar fashion, repeatedly interrupting and talking over them while demanding that they show her respect and allow her to finish her every point. At one point, she even demanded that Nuclear talk to her like he would talk to his mother.

According to the comments on YouTube, many felt that Seales had been the one not showing respect for the others.

“She insulted almost every one of them and demanded respect for shouting them down each time,” one wrote.

Another added, “‘Are you shaking your head no at me?’ Says the one who literally rolled her eyes at everything they said.”

“The disrespect of this woman is insufferable. Demanding respect while not giving any, rolling her eyes constantly, cutting people off, insulting almost every single one of them and never stating any facts. Every time she said something the SAN fact check proved her wrong. I pray that she doesn’t get into ANY politics again,” another said.

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