Joe Rogan says ex-con guest allegedly killed man, hid dismembered remains month after podcast
Joe Rogan revealed that a former guest on his podcast allegedly murdered someone just a month after he appeared on the podcast.
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During Wednesday's episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," Rogan recalled his 2024 interview with Sheldon Johnson while discussing sociopaths with physician Zach Bush.
Johnson, an ex-con who portrayed himself as a reformed criminal justice advocate, was arrested in spring 2024 for allegedly shooting Collin Small dead in a New York City apartment before dismembering his body and stashing the remains in multiple locations. He was charged with second-degree murder.
Officers who responded to the scene first only discovered Small's headless torso, then located his dismembered feet that were in a plastic bin. His other body parts were allegedly found in Johnson's Harlem apartment.
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"We had a guy in the studio that cut a guy’s head off after the podcast. He killed a guy and cut his head off," Rogan said. "He does the podcast and then afterward goes and visits this guy that apparently he had a beef with, kills him, cuts his head off, puts him in a [suitcase], like puts a wig on, and tries to escape in the hallway through the cameras."
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At the time, Johnson appeared on the podcast with civil rights attorney Josh Dubin, who leads an organization focused on advocating for people who have been wrongly convicted. He was released from prison in 2019 after serving time for a series of armed robberies in 1999.
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When Johnson appeared on the podcast, he was working as a client advocate for the public defender's office in Queens.
According to the New York Post, a man could be heard begging for mercy before two gunshots rang from the apartment building where Johnson was seen going in and out of in different disguises following the murder.
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Records from the New York Department of Corrections indicated that both Johnson and Small had served time in prison, though the nature of their relationship remained unclear.
During his appearance on Rogan's podcast, Johnson said turning his life around was his goal.
"I said to myself, ‘I’ve been doing bad for so long. I’m going to try to do something good,'" Johnson said.
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