Murdaugh gun claim collides with bizarre Charleston showdown as lawyers battle over what next jury gets to see

Alex Murdaugh returned to court Friday for a pretrial hearing ahead of his murder retrial, and his attorneys opened up with a claim that the judge said "raised my eyebrows."

The disbarred attorney appeared before Circuit Judge Debra McCaslin at 10 a.m. in Lexington County for a pretrial hearing ahead of his April 2027 retrial in the killings of his wife, Maggie, and son, Paul. 

Several motions and issues were discussed, including Murdaugh's defense raising a new potential ballistics issue. One of his attorneys, Jim Griffin, told the judge that his team learned through FITSNews reporting that weapons from a recent Allendale County murder may have been connected to the Murdaugh murder case.

Prosecutor Creighton Waters told the court the claim was entirely new to him.

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"I have never heard the first thing about that," Waters said, adding that he communicates with SLED daily and had not been told of any such development.

"I will certainly look into that, but I would be flabbergasted to find out that actually had happened and no one had advised this office of that," Waters said.

McCaslin appeared struck by the allegation as well, telling Griffin, "As far as the murder in Allendale with the murder weapons, you certainly raised my eyebrows on that."

Griffin argued that if investigators determined shell casings from the Allendale case matched those tied to the Murdaugh murders, the defense wants the underlying testing and investigative records. He said such a finding could raise questions about the original ballistics analysis or whether a firearm associated with the Murdaugh case was later used in another killing.

Waters stressed that he had not read the FITSNews material and said he does not generally follow media coverage of the case.

"I don’t watch the podcast and I don’t read the blogs because I try to base what I’m doing on the evidence and not on speculation that’s out there in the media," Waters said. "It would blow my mind if something like that had happened in SLED and not call me."

Waters later said that SLED has now told him there is no known ballistics match linking a .300 Blackout used in an Allendale County shooting to another crime. Waters said the firearm evidence from the Allendale case was entered into a ballistics database but "there have been no leads or no matches on that."

"I’m going to find out more and double check and we’re going to run this down," Waters said, adding that SLED told him there were "no leads or hits" involving the .300 Blackout used in the Allendale shooting.

Defense attorney Dick Harpootlian said the defense wants more than a verbal assurance from investigators and remains skeptical of SLED because of issues it has raised over the agency’s handling of evidence in the Murdaugh case.

"I have never questioned Mr. Waters’ integrity," Harpootlian said. "But as a result of this case, I cannot help but question the SLED lab integrity and the SLED agency."

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The defense also raised the case of Michael Colucci, whose murder charge was dismissed without prejudice after his attorneys alleged the state withheld critical exculpatory evidence.

Griffin noted that former SLED agent David Owen, the lead case agent in Murdaugh’s murder investigation, was also involved in the Colucci case and asked whether Owen was disciplined or sanctioned as a result.

Waters said he was not aware of any finding that Owen had been dishonest, but said he would look into it further.

The discussion centered in part on prosecutors’ Giglio obligations, named for the 1972 U.S. Supreme Court decision Giglio v. United States. Under that ruling, prosecutors must disclose material evidence that could be used to challenge the credibility of a government witness, including evidence of promises, agreements or other information that could show bias or affect a witness’s credibility. The Supreme Court held that withholding material credibility evidence can violate a defendant’s due process rights.

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McCaslin also ruled on whether prosecutors could use Murdaugh’s testimony from his first murder trial at his retrial, although she said what portions can be introduced will depend on the evidence admitted in the new trial.

"I think it’s pretty clear, a criminal defendant’s testimony from a first trial is admissible at a retrial in the same case," McCaslin said.

The defense argued Murdaugh’s decision to testify at his first trial was influenced by the admission of extensive evidence about his financial crimes. 

McCaslin rejected that argument, but said prosecutors will not automatically be able to introduce all of his previous testimony.

"If it’s not relevant, it’s not in," McCaslin said. "I’m going to allow it in, subject to what is being testified to in the trial."

Harpootlian said the defense "respectfully" disagreed with the ruling.

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McCaslin also ruled on polygraph results, after Harpootlian argued the issue could become relevant if Curtis "Eddie" Smith testifies. 

He told the court Smith failed a polygraph when asked whether he killed Paul and Maggie Murdaugh and said Alex Murdaugh passed one "with flying colors."

McCaslin warned the defense that mentioning a polygraph without first approaching her could risk a mistrial. Harpootlian joked that she should threaten him with contempt instead.

"You don’t want me to hold you in contempt, Mr. Harpootlian," McCaslin responded, later warning him not to start "screaming polygraph" in front of the jury.

"I got it. I agree with you," Harpootlian said.

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McCaslin also said she would personally oversee the jury-selection process in the retrial. The first trial was thrown out after Colleton County Clerk of Court Rebecca "Becky" Hill was found to influence the jury for the guilty verdict.

Harpootlian asked the judge to directly supervise how prospective jurors are summoned and screened, repeatedly raising concerns stemming from the first trial.

"Wherever this trial is going to be, I will certainly make sure that it is on the up and up. I can promise you that," she said.

Waters pushed back on suggestions there had been problems with that portion of the first jury-selection process, saying there was "absolutely no evidence that there was any shenanigans with that part of the process."

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It was one of several issues being discussed in Friday's hearing. McCaslin opened the hearing by saying she plans to take up all but three of the pending motions today.

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Next, the judge moved to having a third-party lab, Othram DNA, to independently test DNA found from under Maggie Murdaugh's fingernails. 

Griffin said previous testing showed a mixture that was about 99% Maggie Murdaugh’s DNA and 1% from an unknown male. 

He said the defense wants the private lab Othram to conduct more advanced testing, including SNP analysis, in hopes of learning more about the unidentified male DNA. 

"We want to pay for it, and we want to get on with it," Griffin told the court, saying that the testing could take 60–90 days. 

Waters said the state is willing to make evidence available to the defense, but wants SLED to first process and quantify the untouched reserve sample and then stop before additional testing. 

"If we’re going to burn it, it needs to be burned in a fashion that is fair to both sides," Waters said.

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Griffin objected, arguing SLED has had the evidence for years and only sought additional testing after the defense asked to examine it.

"They’ve had five years," Griffin said. "Now, because we asked to test it, they want to take control of our testing. I mean, that’s not fair." 

"I don’t have any faith they won’t screw this up," Harpootlian said. "Why don’t we have an independent right to examine the untested DNA?" 

McCaslin focused on preserving enough material for both sides.

"You know, it’s not like a piece of paper. I can make a copy of it," the judge said. "It’s just such a little amount."

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Following a short morning break, Harpootlian began questioning his own defense team member, defense attorney Phil Barber, as a witness in their venue change request.

"Would you agree that parking is difficult in downtown Charleston?" Waters asked.

"I would agree that parking is difficult in downtown Charleston if you're not permitted to parking," Barber said.

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Throughout his questioning, Barber repeatedly said that Charleston was no more expensive than other parts of the Palmetto State.

"You don't think the cost of living is higher in Charleston?" Waters said.

"McDonald's is the same price in Charleston as anywhere else," Barber replied.

Harpootlian also noted that Murdaugh "was broke" and that the defense is conscious of the cost of the retrial.

"And when I'm there [Charleston], not on business. Well, sometimes on business too. I stay at really nice hotels and eat at really nice restaurants but we won't be for this. He's broke," Harpootlian said. "He hasn't had a job in four years and if he did have a job, the feds or the state would be seizing the money."

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"Colleton County is poison," Harpootlian said.

McCaslin ruled that the trial would be removed from the Circuit and said that a formal motion would be released a later date. 

"This ruling rests on four grounds. First, the exceptional rate of juror disqualification during the January 23rd jury selection. Second, the community prejudice arriving from the size of the county and the long-standing association between the defendant's family and the 14th Circuit. Third, the South Carolina Supreme Court's determination that the former Colleton County Clerk of Court improperly influenced the jury, depriving the defendant of his constitutional right to an impartial jury. And fourth, the form of publicity surrounding this case, there's case law that says, I can't transfer something just for publicity," McCaslin said.

"But with the four grounds that I've just stated, I am transferring it," she said.

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Moving on to the last ruling, McCaslin ruled for in-camera proceedings from the previous trial to be unsealed; jurors' names will be protected and redacted. She did not take up the three existing motions, which include: the motion to exclusive evidence, the motion to admit evidence of motive, and the motion to dismiss the murder charges. 

The judge said it would be too premature to issue rulings and will plan to issue those rulings closer to the retrial. The next pretrial hearing will be on Nov. 13 at 10 a.m. 

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Nathan S. Williams, a South Carolina federal criminal defense attorney and former Assistant U.S. Attorney who served as Criminal Chief for the District of South Carolina, told Fox News Digital a second trial changes the strategic landscape for Murdaugh.

"There is no surprising the government or the state at trial," Williams said. "He's given his testimony, they can prepare infinitely now to cross-examine him."

"That tends to be frankly more helpful for the state. I think they usually have a better chance on retrial," he added, while noting that limits on some of the state's evidence could cut the other way.

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Murdaugh, 58, was convicted in 2023 of murdering Maggie, 52, and Paul, 22, at the family’s Moselle estate in Colleton County in June 2021. The South Carolina Supreme Court later overturned the convictions after finding that Hill improperly influenced jurors.

The high court ordered a new trial, but the retrial may look significantly different from the first.

At Murdaugh’s first trial, prosecutors argued that years of theft and financial fraud were closing in on him and that the killings were an effort to distract from mounting scrutiny.

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The South Carolina Supreme Court did not rule that all evidence of Murdaugh’s financial wrongdoing was inadmissible, but it said prosecutors had been allowed to go too far into the details during the first trial.

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Williams said he expects the amount of financial evidence to shrink from the first trial. He said, "there will definitely be less," adding, "How much less I think will be a good question."

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Murdaugh took the stand in his own defense in 2023 and admitted lying to investigators about his whereabouts shortly before Maggie and Paul were killed. He denied murdering them.

Fox News Digital has reached out to the attorney general's office and Murdaugh's defense team for comment.