Victor Davis Hanson on California’s Political Future & the UN’s Hypocrisy
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Editor’s note: This is a lightly edited transcript of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words” from Daily Signal senior contributor Victor Davis Hanson. Subscribe to Victor Davis Hanson’s own YouTube channel to watch past episodes.
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Sami Winc: So, Victor, lots on the agenda, but I understand you were at a political event last night with Steve Hilton. I don’t know if you had a few things to say about that first, and then—
Victor Davis Hanson: Yeah, I was asked. He was in Fresno, and I was asked to introduce him and then have a Q&A with him.
Well, he’s the best-qualified Republican nominee in the last 20 years. He’s a polymath. He had his own tech company. He ran restaurants in London. He was the political adviser to the British prime minister, David Cameron. He had “The Next Revolution” for seven years as a Fox host, so he’s done it all, and he’s mastered California issues.
So I asked him a series of questions on what do you do with high-speed rail? If you cancel it, what do you do with this Stonehenge infrastructure? What do you do with the Left stopping the California water project completion? What do you do with the decrepit…? What do you do with California?
He had a lot of good answers. There were a lot of people there, but it’s going to be very difficult.
Xavier Becerra‘s attitude is two things. One, we, the Democrats, outnumber the Republicans in registration almost three to one. And the Hispanic vote is 45% of the population. I don’t know how many actually are registered and vote according to that demographic. Maybe not as high turnout as other groups, but they are angry at ICE and they tend to be very left-wing, most of them. And they’re turned off by Donald Trump.
So Becerra’s strategy is threefold. I’m going to stay in my basement, and I’m not going to campaign. I think there’s going to be a debate tonight, Friday night. I’m not going to campaign. Stay in my basement.
Number two, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Trump is at 39%. He’s endorsed Hilton. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
And three, I don’t want to say a word about the multibillion-dollar fraud in California. I was attorney general at one time when there was a lot of fraud that was starting. I was the head of HHS when the federal government’s funds were being misused. My chief of staff and Gavin Newsom’s chief of staff have dipped into campaign funds in an improper way. I don’t want to talk about any of that.
So I’m not going to discuss anything about my allegations of corruption or incompetence. I’m not going to debate Steve Hilton’s issues. I’m going to rely on the fact that, as Karen Bass just said, the election is over because he’s a Republican. All people are going to do, she said, is look at the name and, after “D,” check it off.
And that was a very cynical thing to say. She said that he’s already through. It’s not even close.
She may be right, but if he loses, and after Spencer Pratt loses, and the billionaire tax passes, there’s going to be a lot more people leave the state.
And what’s happening in this state is the population is staying steady because the upper-middle class and the wealthy classes are leaving, but people are coming here because of our rich social welfare cost. And people who have come here, 27% of the California population was not born in the United States, and about 40% either were not born in the United States or their parents were not born in California.
And they have birth rates much higher than the indigenous population, and they have, on average, greater social welfare needs. And 50% of all California residents are on Medi-Cal, and 40% of all births are on Medi-Cal.
So you can see what’s happening. The people who have the higher incomes are leaving because they’re taxed to death. The people who have the lower incomes, and who are recent immigrants or whose parents were, are demanding more social welfare services and think that the original population should pay for it.
And they’re going to run out of victimizers because they see themselves as victims of a system. I don’t know why a person would come from India or China or Latin America and come here and then have all these grievances against the existing California establishment, but they do.
And it’s just not going to work. It’s a medieval state with very wealthy people and very poor people. The middle class and the upper-middle class are leaving.
Sami Winc: All right, so let’s go ahead and turn to the U.N. What did you think of all of that walkout on Bibi Netanyahu and how he handled it?
Victor Davis Hanson: Well, it was very funny that the Iranian government just slaughtered 30,000 to 40,000 of their own people and continues to kill them. And not as many people walked out when the Iranians spoke as when Netanyahu spoke.
There were a lot of Europeans who walked out, and he addressed that with Britain and France. It was really amazing.
You know, he said, “You call us settler colonialism. Our language is unchanged. Our people are unchanged since the third millennium BC.”
And who are talking? The French, who were the great colonizers of the Middle East, along with the British. We inherited a British colony that had taken over and was not indigenous to the Middle East.
He had a good point.
He talked about [Zohran] Mamdani trying to arrest him. You know, he said, “Why doesn’t he arrest other people?” But he won’t ever touch people from China or Iran.
Well, it basically was a diatribe, and I don’t mean that in a negative sense, against hypocrisy.
And [Javier] Milei and a lot of this, what was interesting, a lot of people from South America, a lot of presidents with this new conservative wave that Trump gets no credit for.
But as I said earlier, of the 32 nations in South and Central America and the Caribbean, there were only about seven or eight pro-American democracies, and now there are only, I think, five that are anti-American and socialist-communist. They’re all conservative.
The Paraguay president, who was newly inaugurated, lambasted the walkout. So did Milei. He gave a great talk. He said that the U.N. was parasitical.
Something just creepy, just to finish, looking at that delegation and reading about it. You have 170 nations. The majority now are not democratic. They come over to this rich, bustling city. They cannot be prosecuted for any crimes. They’re on budgets, and then they talk about democracy, and they vote usually to condemn the United States, the host, or Israel.
But they never vote in their own home country. So they act like they’re defenders of democracy, and then they trot back and their dictator pats them on the head because they walked out during Israel’s or Donald Trump’s talk.
But I’m getting really tired of it. I think most Americans are. It’s okay just to vent, but we could just take it out of here, and it doesn’t really contribute that much to New York.
New York’s not going to sink or swim depending on whether the U.N is there. I think it would be a lot better for it just to move to a neutral location. Why don’t you put it in, I don’t know, the Mariana Islands or Tahiti or something, a neutral place?
Sami Winc: Or Iceland.
Victor Davis Hanson: Iceland.
No, they would never do that. What they want in New York is left-wing media exposure and then nice restaurants and big expense accounts.
And a lot of them are, I don’t know how to use proper language, pretty degenerate people, so they indulge in drugs, alcohol, sex, and it’s all legal. I mean, you can’t prosecute them.
They all get parking… That famous picture they have of all of their cars with hundreds of parking tickets on them. They’re just immune.
And they’re mostly from the Third World, so they hate the United States.
Sami Winc: It’s all hush-hush.
Victor Davis Hanson: It’s just a circus.
Netanyahu was really good, and he addressed all the charges. I would have reminded him that genocide is impossible. They say he commits genocide against the Arab people, and the Arab people inside Israel are now 20% of the population. When Israel was formed, they were, I think, 12%.
You don’t have genocide. Hitler, if you say Hitler committed genocide, he did. What if you said Hitler committed genocide, but the Jewish population doubled in the Third Reich? You see what I mean? He wiped out Jews.
Tucker Carlson had a big rant about all this, and he went on Israeli TV and said that Israel was not a democracy because certain people don’t vote.
And I wanted to say to him, “Who doesn’t vote?”
In Israel, every citizen, Arab, Christian, or otherwise, over 18 can vote.
Do people in the West Bank and Gaza vote? No, they’re not citizens.
Do they vote for the Palestinian Authority? Yes. That has semi-autonomy.
And do they vote in Gaza? They did one time. One time they voted for Hamas.
But, Tucker, there are about 30 million illegal aliens in the United States, and they’re here, some of them for a long time. Are you saying we’re not a democracy because they don’t vote? They’re not citizens.
We have a greater percentage of the population inside our borders that are not citizens, about 16%, 17%, or 15%, than does Israel.
But he counts the West Bank and Gaza as Israeli citizens who are denied the right to vote. That’s absurd.
And the more and more he talks, it’s really strange because it’s almost… I was listening to a rant, and it’s all conspiracy theories.
And it’s basically the more he says he doesn’t do anything, the more that’s an indication that he has said or done that.
That’s what’s strange.
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